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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 5:00
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Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)

Discuss Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)
 
Qiman
United States
Posts: 237
14 years ago
Jul 21, 2010 13:48
I personally wont short CL yet at this current price level, suspect it is going to test to the top of its recent range today or tommorow, and then it might have some profit taking. I may go long for a nice bit of cash as it moves off its moving average for a short bit. Cl seems to be acting a bit funny to me, like it could break its most recent highs despite no real fundamentals supporting such a move, we will see . . .
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 21, 2010 11:48
Not sure if anyone trades the sports mkts here...but PAK V Australia test match the runs index has dropped by 200 points in 30mins...almost like trading Crude oil on a wed afternoon after inventories
Stationdealer
London, UK
Posts: 715
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 21:50
Im also planning to sell CL from 78.15--targeting 73. I think I will get 78.15 tomorrow, above I only risk 2 dollar below still with in the range (79-73) I can gain 5 dollars min, in-case of a further slide form there I may get lucky. I'll give it till next Wed/Thurs.
Stationdealer
London, UK
Posts: 715
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 21:26
Apparently when traders came back from lunch they found something they liked reversing indices and taking prices higher. The key will be if we have a solid close and follow thru in the coming sessions. Higher high and higher low with Crude finishing just over 1% higher in todays session. As Ive said in recent posts aggressive traders could buy dips as long as the 50 day MA holds.

Prices in Treasuries (30-yr bonds & 10-yr notes) have been unable to see extended upside this month. If prices fail to get above 12819 and 12318 soon aggressive traders could get short.

For the last two days the 100 day MA has held in August gold at $1179. As long as this persists traders can scale back into longs. At the moment were not convinced $1155 will not come into play so Im on the sidelines. Inside day in September silver with prices closing back above the 200 day MA. We see solid support at $17.30 and have advised to have small long futures position in September as long as that level holds. Additionally own December call spreads from higher levels and are down on the trade.
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 20:05
@Qiman - Economists are charlatans...they practice a pseudo-science and try to pass it off as being important and accurate due to overly complex math models. It's getting the same way with trading, v soon the most basic requirement to join the most vanilla trading desk will be to be a PHD in chaos theory, when all you will be is a telephone jockey selling shares to sheep aka mutual fund mgrs
Qiman
New Mexico , United States
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 19:50
This article below summed up for me much of what is wrong with the whole field of economics and why our systems are so messed up. In my training I was struck at how much mathematics was used in order to turn it into a hard science, when in essence economic behavior is highly influenced by herd behavior and quite emotional. In contrast to this academic view I have seen much wisdom in some of the simplest precepts from the Austrian school of econ, including some of the writings by Peter Schiff:

Economics is Hard. Dont Let Bloggers Tell You Otherwise

In this essay, I argue that neither non-economist bloggers, nor economists who portray economics especially macroeconomic policy as a simple enterprise with clear conclusions, are likely to contibute any insight to discussion of economics and, as a result, should be ignored by an open-minded lay public.

Writers who have not taken a year of PhD coursework in a decent economics department (and passed their PhD qualifying exams), cannot meaningfully advance the discussion on economic policy.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33655771/Economics-is-Hard



chloethebull
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 19:06
yup great call sd...i closed out some of my shorts but still holdn some..not sure if im adding fresh shorts lol..had some shorts on the usdcad that didn;t get hit was playing a lil too tight again..waiting to see if oil can hold above 200dma...any thought out there?gl guys
montmorency
Abingdon, UK
Posts: 610
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 19:02
Good call so far SD.
Stationdealer
London, UK
Posts: 715
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 13:01
Gold im buying here 1177.80 and if it touches 1170 again, and then hold for 1212.
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 20, 2010 12:31
@Catnip yeah u can trade london or Paris wheat