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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 5:00
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Qingyu
manchester, UK
Posts: 1763
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 21:13
sorry, not banks, but government not only act as lender but also borrower.
Qingyu
manchester, UK
Posts: 1763
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 21:10
tw, my dear client talk about ESM, what is that for? up or down for short?
Qingyu
manchester, UK
Posts: 1763
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 21:09
a lot of bad news about chinese real estate maeket, but havent heard any crucial bad news.

the news about ghost city property price fall 6-70%, just followed by a good news local government will bailout ghost city. cuz they have 30% increase on revenue per yr, black money but from coal/crude/gas.

but rest local governments may not have money to bailout. however central goverment will have some policy about bailout, cuz banks not only act as lender but also borrower, should be able to cook it up.

anyway, rumour many billionaires dont have a mln cash at mo.

in china, the most important thing is meat every meal, so if no QE3, i cant imagine how to bring it down.
cat0nip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posts: 1632
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 19:44
707 trn of outstanding derivatives BIS reports....well as long as the net margin is zero...
but if Ezone banks counterparties fail...then its 707 trn gross margin. This can be inflation if a CB actually prints 707 trn of bills but if not...its deflation. No more cash.
Ezone banks are deeply undercapitalized and that is because there is no separation between
commcercail and investment , these are universal banks. There are hardly any investment baks in USA left from Bear and Lehman collapse.
It could be too late to correct an systemic error, that the ECB was not permitted officially to monetize sov bonds.
cygnus
New York , United States
Posted Anonymously
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 18:47
Although its grim, I'm afraid Bass is likely correct.

Only the USA and UK have recapitalized their banks. Remember, Germany has defaulted twice in the last 100 years.

If the euro banks collapse, the eurozone could lose 50% of its GDP. Next could be Japan, which has the worst financials and demographics in the world (at present, only a 2% interest rate rise on Japanese debt might be enough to cause a default) . The USD will likely sky-rocket. There would be a deflationary depression.

Thanks for sharing, Dave.
Sir Ignore
United States
Posts: 3068
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 13:03
wait..iz there no holiday in UK monday? wow.....grindstonez
Sir Ignore
United States
Posts: 3068
12 years ago
Nov 27, 2011 12:55
yes, interesting talk, Dave...guns and gold, eh?

I lost almost all my dosh in the snow removal business here in southwest florida...
DaveO
N.Cornwall, UK
Posts: 5733
12 years ago
Nov 26, 2011 23:55
DaveO
N.Cornwall, UK
Posts: 5733
12 years ago
Nov 25, 2011 23:41
@Olivier, I dont see a problem posting in the gold room except that someone polluted it.