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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 5:00
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EUR

Discuss EUR in this thread
 
Shane
Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 209
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 3:39
rrose
do you have a plan to short euro lets analyze
Shane
Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 209
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 3:36
1.well i try to hedge and diversify my trades so that even if i am loosing one i maybreakeven with the yen cross.
2. Bang on with that trying to double your profits.
3. As i keep my positions small so i try to manage them out at breakeven however depends on the trend for eg i will never try to manage a short euro at 1.32 lolz . i do keep sl but either very close or very far depends upon the market mood. for e.g cable short 1.528 sl 1.5320 basically to reenter at 1.5380. however in any case i put sl above the range in daily chart and most of the times this range is 50 to 100 pips from my entry.
4. identify various supports and resistances add on the strong ones and sl above or below the weekly resistances
rrose
United States
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 3:12
things that I have learned
1.never try to make back a loss, if you take a loss walk away come back later when you made peace with the loss
2. I still have a hard time with placing stops, I find that the market will most of the time take my stop then run for my original target (this is one reason I have a hard time with 2 to 1 ratio )but the golden rule is still once you have placed a stop do not move it more then ten pips off
3. after having some good trades don't try to take one big trade to double your profit, you will probably loss more then you made.
let me know what you think, I have more
nzvik
Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 225
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 2:48
my risk management is very simple - I always enter a stop order along with my entry order.
sometimes I cannot enter a trade because I cannot find the right level for a stop.

Shane
Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 209
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 2:38
Well rose i still have a long way to go but some points i follow now are.
1. Buy or sell risk in atleast two pairs such as if you wanna go long USD sell eurusd, gbpusd or audusd or a couple of small positions in each.
2. Always Keep a yen pair like audjpy for longs to give you some benefits of carry trade and diversify your trading log.
3. Trade in mini lots even if you have a big account as it gives you psychological advantage for e.g loosing 200 or 2000 pounds is much worse than loosing 20 or 200 pounds specially psychologically besides this it gives you lots of holding power which is very important in this game as you will be much more comfortable to hold a 200 pounds loss rather than a 2000 pounds.
4. Dont chase the market let the market come to you.its like either you can wait at the platform for the train or try catching it by running after it.
5. Be patient with your profits and uncomfortable with your losses.
PureStones
Korea Sout
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 2:37
thanks ashraf for your advice. For the better trading!!!
rrose
United States
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 1:51
would you care to share some of what you learnd in risk managment
Shane
Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 209
14 years ago
Apr 14, 2010 1:35
Dear Ashraf
Its hard to believe the way euro fell that any one will loose money but people did lots of them actually lost. For me it was the first euro bear market but even with six months of experience behind me it took me almost two months to settle with it, i was a rookie and even the most simplest equation was complex for me. Most of the traders loose all there cash by the time they have learned to survive. I believe the key is experiencing every kind of market and surviving in it. So i think any one who can survive a year or two even at break even eventually becomes a good trader.
Ashraf Laidi
London, UK
Posts: 0
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 23:46
there are those who:

1. who were sure EURUSD would drop from 1.45 to 1.32 and yet failed to make any profits (because they tried to chase the market downwards or upwards or play the rebounds and lost).

and;

2. those who successfully played the corrections w/out a care in the world about the major downmove

and;

3. those who made money both ways or ..either way of the above.

Ashraf
montmorency
Abingdon, UK
Posts: 610
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 21:27
Fascinating discussion taking place .... may I humbly suggest it be continued on the "Trading" thread here?

But to respond to a few points:


@Rrose: I'll take your word for it. So, assuming he predicted Friday's upmove, did you see it in time and did you make money from trading it?

Crowd Psychology/ Mass psychology: I have seen it claimed that TA "works" because it is supposed to (somehow) represent the mass psychology at work in the market. However, I don't know how this can be proved. Has anyone done any research to try to prove it? If it is unproven, I don't know how this can be stated confidently (although you see it stated all the time).

@Catnip: I assume you are talking about mathematical models. Interesting idea. Hard to do in practice, I would have thought. I suppose that the "wave" of the EW is like a kind of whiplash responding to the pulse of the "signal"? I agree with you that the markets are interconnected (that is after all the basis of this site, I would have thought) so it is a bit pointless trying to analyse one market in isolation. On the other hand it seems quite difficult to analyse them all together.

I'm going to copy this post to the "Trading" thread and see if anyone follows :-)