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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 5:00
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Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)

Discuss Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)
 
asad
London, UK
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 14, 2010 11:46
Chloe,

You're welcome! You can ALWAYS return us the favor by parting w/ some of those profits...if you wishhhhh? Obviously, as you yourself mentioned, we ALL played a part in it, right? :p


Asad
asad
London, UK
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 14, 2010 11:44
Lucky,

I'm seeing EUR *exactly* where it is right now - under the sheets!


Asad
Stationdealer
London, UK
Posts: 715
14 years ago
May 14, 2010 10:22
Oil is a buy i did suggest a buy around 7320, just above $73 technicals suggest a buy as the picture is over sold now.
jjstone
Toronto, Canada
Posts: 45
14 years ago
May 14, 2010 6:41
Long 500.
chloethebull
Canada
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 14, 2010 2:01
woow what a great day ..went long @74.50 closed @75.75..now im back in @ 74.25 an looking to add more..closing all position @ 76.00...went long usdcad @1.0140 closed @1.0205...having a great mth with booking profits..only thing im down on is my gold short..but i think the play is in effect now an its only a matter of time..looking to close an take up a massive long position in oil...gl guys an thank-u for all your forum chats an ashraf for fast updates an great analyses..
lucky
ibadan, Nigeria
Posts: 377
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 23:56
asad where you see euro
asad
London, UK
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 23:51
Catnip,

I love it - I want to do it. Chart it out for me. Hell, I'll take delivery even if I have to! Just tell me HOW to do it - buy here and sell there. This is the market...this is arbitrage...tis has to be legal!

Okay, give me a roadmap...and I'll take care of the rest. No, I'm serious...


Asad
Stationdealer
London, UK
Posts: 715
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 23:40
*On February 10, Papandreou announces a plan to freeze public sector pay and impose higher taxes for low and middle-income households of Greece, and of course the public sector workers revolt. Riot police fire tear gas on demonstrators. European leaders are called into emergency session on February 11 to consider a bail-out. The Euro is stabilized for about a month, but the price of gold lifts from $1065 to $1140. The pressure is now on German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose people are now polling over 80% against a bail-out of Greece and her party is facing an important regional election.

*On March 3, Papandreou advises his people to either accept lower bonuses and higher taxes or risk bankruptcy. The next day, there is a successful sale of Greek bonds. In the following week, the Greek Prime Minister traveled to Washington to ask President Obama for help.

*But, behind the scenes, March was not a good month for Papandreou and the whole affair unraveled on March 29 when investors no longer had an appetite for Greeces bonds. Gold then went soaring from about $1090 to the yesterdays all-time record close of $1239. During the interim, the spread between the yield on Greek and German bonds lifted to 469 basis points (bp) by the third week of April. Then the ratings agencies stepped in with further downgrades, giving Greeces credit rating junk status, which was enough to cause the Euro to crater from about 135 to 126. Not even a $1 trillion Euro stabilization plan, supported in part by the IMF, was enough to satisfy traders.

*It was the failed Greek bond auction at the end of March that caused Europeans to flee the Euro and go into gold. See a gold vs Euro chart for that ratio.

The moment the European Central Bank raises the borrowing cost for bullion, the price of gold will sink. Moreover, as and when Europeans see that their Euro is far over-sold on a short-term basis, I think they will start selling Gold, Dollars and Yen and buying Euro.

This process can be expected to start shortly, I believe. Gold could quickly drop back to $1100. A couple months from now, I expect California will start a similar process in the USA as what happened in Greece. Well before then, I think the $USD and $GOLD relationship will be back in sync. Then, as and when the US Dollar drops, the workers and taxpayers riots start, forcing a massive Fed bail-out of bankrupt state and municipal governments, I think that $GOLD will soar again.

In the past several hours, the equity markets in Asia-Pacific and now Europe have strengthened. Spot gold has settled back from about 1248 yesterday afternoon to 1233, so I anticipate relative weakness this morning in the goldminers.

Have a great day.
ozzy
brampton, Canada
Posts: 14
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 23:39
Be very very quiet Ashraf is sleeping....................
Stationdealer
London, UK
Posts: 715
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 23:36
The story of the day has to be the break-out in the dollar-denominated gold price at the same time the US Dollar index is soaring. I think there is an explanation - several actually - and that traders are making the mistake in thinking long-term when in all likelihood this has been a rather short-term four to six-week phenomenon, and one that may last another week at best.

I think its prudent to adopt the adage Sell in May and Go Away - until August-September or possibly October, which is the time it will take for the likely outcome of the US mid-term elections to be known. Yes, I am referring to precious metals as well as equities.

Heres my thinking. Gold has become, for the short-run at least, a currency play; a reserve currency if you will, a place of refuge in a sea of central banks and governments who have lost control, if only momentarily, over monetary stability.

The currency market has moved from a state of nervousness to outright panic in the past six months, all starting with Greece, believed from the beginning to be only the first thread that could unravel the Euro unless stability was brought to bear.

Lets follow the timeline.

*From the summer of 2009 through October, following immense new debts taken on by most governments of the world, the price of gold lifts from about $920 to about $1050 and traders and monetary authorities start to focus on the weakest links in the sovereign debt ring. As the debt roll-over problem of Greece hits everybodys radar screen the European finance ministers start to discuss this matter. Gold then pops from $1050 to $1180. Traders then sense that the ratings agencies will downgrade Greece, and the price of gold lifts to over 1210.

*On December 8, Fitch downgrades Greeces credit rating from A- to BBB+, which immediately lifts the governments cost of borrowing. With sovereign default on the minds of traders, as few believed in the reform package being discussed by Greeces Prime Minister Papandreou - a plan to cut the government deficit by four percentage points, as a proportion of GDP, in 2010-2011 the workers rebel in the streets. Standard & Poors ratings for Greece also drop. Traders figure that the Eurozone members will force a tightening in Greece and elsewhere, so traders, perhaps with the help of the European Central Bank, drop the price of gold in just three weeks about $130/oz to $1085. Simultaneously, the US Dollar soars and the Euro drops from 150 to 142. Markets are in sync at this point just before Christmas.

*During early January, traders are focused on the spread between the interest charged on Greek and German debt, which widened to 4% (i.e., 400 basis points), and thinking that Greece may default, they lift the Euro and lift the price of gold again. Gold lifts to 1150, and the Euro to about 145. Markets are still in sync in mid-January.

*Then, for a few weeks, it looks like the situation is controllable. Gold drops to $1065 as the Dollar strengthens. But the Euro drops to 136 and Europeans are starting to get worried that inflation and higher interest rates are on the way.