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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 5:00
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USD

Discuss USD
 
digi
uhu, Albania
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 15:26
catnip its a quite cynical statement
FEds statutory durty is inflation and unemployment
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 15:14
yoni
all wrong.
FED has no interest in economy and unemployment. FED's biz is to SELL bucks.
Now assume all that liquidity which is the value of a variable is converted in cash.
What a biz. To print a 100$ bill costs say 2 USD. Makes 98 USD profit.
Yoni
Finland
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 14:39
And if you ask me I will tell you:
My forecast is that the FED will be eliminated because their actions are sinking the US economy. Their actions only help the banks which are the shareholders of the FED.
The FED will be eliminated in a couple of years when the dollar will lose its status of a global reserve currency. Just watch out where Gold and Silver are headed and you will see. The US dollar is doomed.
The only thing that is placing a footing below the US dollars is the still massive derivatives market which is nominated in US dollars. But this will change. And after watch out.
Karl Marx - The Capital. You are kidding me to base your assumptions on this. Better read Friedrich Hayek and von Mises. Good luck!
Yoni
Finland
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 14:33
Catnip, you remind me of those people who 3 years ago said US housing market can only go up.
Now you say China can only buy dollars and US treasuries. :)) Everything has 2 sides. Nothing goes up forever :)
You seem to not get what is happening in the USA. Their future econ growth cannot eliminate their debt burden. Their social security system is imploding due to awful demographcs. That is why Fed is pumping liquidity to ignite more and more growth and to decrease the joblessness. But what actually happens is this liquidity goes in other parts of the World (this is the only right thing in your opinion) and ignites growth somewehere else.
Japan tried the same thing. To ignite growth by pumping liquidity for years. But what happened is they got 20 years of almost zero growth and they are not better off vs late 1980s.
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 14:17
yoni
wrong again.
In order to become indepent or less dependent on export they must print more yuan bills because the domestic market goes up and needs more cash. But this is a very long way to go
and for 10 or more years the development of domestic market requires support by exports.
China is in a trap. They made too many yuan and hence the domestic market is subdued by far too low wages and far too high food prices. China so far same as Russia depends on state of global economy. FEd is in the driver's seat.
Yoni
Finland
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 13:45
Below I wanted to write of course:
"they will NOT need to collect greenbacks anymore but will start to unwind"
Yoni
Finland
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 13:44
Catnip, your model is based on the assumption that China will continue to grow through exports. However in view of history of other similar export oriented economies in the past, the share of exports in China GDP will decrease and at some point in the future - I think 2 years, this is also backed by a assessment by a rep of China Central Bank 15 days ago - they will need to collect greenbacks anymore but will start to unwind. Thus they will achieve somethig else - they will put their biggest competitor in this gobal game - USA - on their knees. Just wait and see.
said
mulhouse, France
Posts: 2822
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 13:07
catnip
i have a mission fajita for you
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 12:42
Yoni
they cannot unwind...rather they must wind up...
because the massive printing of yuan and the credit easing is backed with USD reserves.

After I understood Marx I understand how FED works ...unbeatable.
It is as it is.
You see...the FED prints central bank liquidity but not greenbacks. The liquidity is exported
and drives the inflation up in China ( and Russia, and now Eurozone) thus due to lack of cash
inflation remains low in US and the FEd can print more liquidity.
Since greenback is rare the value of USD cash rises, cannot fall.
This can only be broken if someone wants to convert liquidity in cash. Then it becomes evident FED's liquidity is not backed by anything. And then USD no does not fall but skyrockets.



Yoni
Finland
Posted Anonymously
13 years ago
Dec 16, 2010 12:25
Catnip, you will see who's the master of puppets when China starts unwinding the dollar denominated assets. USA will then fall to its knees. Haha