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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Jun 10, 2009 18:17
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Falling Equities Still Key for Dollar

Intermarket analysis set-up still suggests that fresh equity selling remains the only source of support for the US currency.
 
slaiman7
Lebanon
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 16:16
Speculator, and Cougar,

The ideas you present are really interesting. I would like to add another dimension to them by adding my perspective from business point of view.

I have great doubts about any green shoots and i have some doubt about having the worst behind us.
I lived in the US until DEC 08 where i owned retail business. Due to the recession/depression in the US, I left in Dec 08 to Venezuela. When i first arrived in Venezuela, it felt like anything but a recession going around the world. Business was excellent!!
However, it is only in the last couple of months that business owners started complaining about business getting slower. Business owners are now saying that June was the worst they've seen in long time, if ever. Major importers form china, located in Panama free zone and export to all latin america, are expecting things to get worse. Major exporting offices in China are painting a very bleak picture going forward.

I realize that many countries are indulging in QE, but each of those countries, except china, have a broken system that QE is barely keeping it together. As for the chinese stimulus, it would be a joke to assume that it could make up for the loss of US and European consumers that world has been, and still, dependent on. An exception for the US and European consumers, real estate bubbles throughout many countries have supported local consumers, but we all know what happened and still happening to those bubbles.

Furthermore, we are seeing the savings rate in the US going up really fast. I can see this happening all around the world even in countries with high savings rates such as emerging economies. People in emerging countries are not going to start spending more than they used to, while seeing all the problems happening in the developed countries. Talking to people from emerging economies I sense how worried they are. They assume that if countries such as US are facing such dire problems, then things are going to get worse for them. Even if that wasn't true, you can imagine how such a psychological factor could affect their spending habits.

Thus, even if we assume that the financial system has surpassed its worst phase, there is a lot of adjustment that needs to happen around the world, and as a result, the least I could say about the road ahead is that if things are not going to get worse, they are not going to get better any time soon.

Slaiman
Ashraf Laidi
London, UK
Posts: 0
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 15:45
PA, OK, will try and do that.

Ashraf
PA
Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 1
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 15:17
Ashraf,
bought your both books, congratulation on great work.
Regarding your multistrategy comments below, would you care to elaborate more in form of extra article/series of articles/addition to your workbook?

Petr
slaiman7
Lebanon
Posts: 31
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 15:07
speculator, thanks for the reply!
Carlco
bristol, UK
Posts: 151
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 13:22
Ashraf, speculator doesn't trade.
speculator
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 13:06
carclo, i would agree.

but circumstances are somewhat different pre-QE.

an issue that could bring a bout a retest are:

shock interest rates increases led by sell off in US government bonds by speculators and investors. this could happen if investors fear a collpase in dollar or sharply revise their inflation expectations.
we cannot judge inflation expectations by oil prices, as even if they sky rocket for speculative or fundamental reasons, consumers may allocate smaller budget for discretionary spending thus we may just get energy inflation and not broad increases. this is especially true if there is wage deflation and falling house prices.
i wont go in to details as to how this could completely mess up markets but it is rather obvious.
Ashraf Laidi
London, UK
Posts: 0
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 12:58
Guys, while it is important to establish opinions as to whether equities will retest (or near) the March lows; or push to new highs, how about developing a trading philosophy that shields you regardless of your opinions about the market. It may be difficult to talk suggest this without the use of options and sophisticated hedging techs. But traders should be able to find opportunity in both directions. Yesterday was a good example; stocks remain weak but pointing out short-term longs in Aussie yen based on the RBA outlook did pay to those who pursued this. Meanwhile, all throughout, you could maintain your longs in USDCAD and shorts in USDJPY. The key to this of course is to maintaian sufficient margin cushion for such multistrategies, Another thing is to have different trading accounts for different trading horizons..and even for different risk positioning.

Ashraf
Carlco
UK
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 12:26
No. That was a low from total uncertainty that the banking system was in meltdown. I believe we will see further write downs, more banks going to the wall and even re-restructuring of debts, but so what, the damage is done, more interesting is the export potential from countries with weakened currencies, mining and oil will drag us out of this recession,led by BRIC's, not Western banking, they are the walking dead and will continue so, also, until CDO's from leveraged companies have been restructed (Enterprise Inns being a good example) which will be going on well into next year, is how i see the biggest hurdle for recovery, NOT because if the cash won't be available on reasonable refinancing terms, but if the market's believe it will be.
A retest of 3600-3700 unlikely (bar a disastrous failing or default), 'IF' we do, it will meet with a fierce rebound(triple low retest). If you draw another trend line from the oct '87 'crash' we should be at about 4850-5000, i reiterate i am bearish, but when you get a stimulus package this big this world wide, it's funny just how cautiously optimistic the markets have been.
cougr
Australia
Posts: 101
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 12:03
Spec ,with regard to S&P , 845 ,according to my interpretation of the charts is a critical level . A close below this will signal a decline close to or equal to the March lows .
speculator
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Jul 7, 2009 10:07
ok but do u see a retest of march lows?