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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 5:00
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catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Apr 10, 2010 20:31
The workaround is apparently accepted. It is basically a loan guarantee which becomes active if Greece fails to raise funds needed for roll over etc. IMF participates ( however I see no strcit commitment by IMF just a proposal) at cost of 3.26% .
The key however is
The lack of clarity regarding the mechanism for timely external financial support may have hindered Greeces access to market finance at affordable cost and hence further undermined confidence in the capacity of the government to meet its fiscal targets, Fitch said in an e-mailed statement.

EU has indeed no mechanisms established to react in real time to instabilities. Instead EU and local govts spent months debating the role of speculators.
One could expect EUR/USD to break over 1.35 and reach up to 1.36 JPY and GBP getting weaker and 10 year note yield to rise above 4%. But it won't last long, until May at most.
ptaczek
Brno, Czech Republic
Posts: 110
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 21:01
@Ashraf: as we are just a few pips from the 1.5 mark, I can't force myself not to think of a possible trend reversal. How do you think would other major currencies act if the euro reverses?

tnx
Ginger
UK
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 21:01
Ashraf
It's a close call on 1.35 but it's holding below 1.35 into the close. Do you still predict 1.30 by end of April or do you reserve judgment till we know what happens over the weekend?
Thanks
G
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 19:39
@macrosam
yes it is intended to benefit Gr correct BUT it must be valid for all Euro zone members eventually.
Consider EUR is not a currency, it is a political/legal treaty based construct. I think the proposed qe bailout had little to no chance to be voted for by all members as it is not permitted by EUR "constitution" but under that pressure a sort of workaround is due. It could work and hold if and only if
there is a economical recovery globally otherwise it will end up in a vast disaster.
Ashraf Laidi
London, UK
Posts: 0
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 19:17
EURUSD will fail to break the 1.35 trendline resistance for the week, which is needed to invalidate the 3-month downchannel.

Downtrend still here.


Ashraf
macrosam
United States
Posts: 190
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 19:10
catnip, I don't disagree with you regarding extending that support to all members but at the moment, the only euro zone member that would benefit is Greece. Look at the yield curves for Portugal, Italy, Spain, etc. You'll see that they can already borrow at rates favorable to euribor + 275, so the extension of that is more effective in spirit than in body (spirit in that it does acknowledge the status of other euro zone members).

I still have no inclination to close out my short at this point. I may in fact add here.
EMP
New York, United States
Posts: 8
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 19:04
Finally decided that it may be time to cover my short...at 1.3510.

Ashraf did a good job in predicting the overall downtrend over the past months. Thank you.

And while, if the stop isn't triggered (which it very well may not be), I'll be happy to ride this position down to 1.30, 1.28...or lower, but I can't say I'm disappointed having put up 10K cash on 1/19 and
emerging with about 36K when stopped-out.

Today's events once again show that you can so often toss both technical and
fundamental factors out the window when the public (which has, sometimes, collectively
an attention-span measured in nanoseconds) once again becomes a fool.

Little Nicky Sarkozy again says, "we will save Greece," and Berlusconi mimics him as he takes time out from his latest 18-year-old friend and says, "whatsa madder wid you guys?"

It reminds me of Mark Twain's quote, "smart men argue about reasons, but fools make the final decisions."

Fear and greed. Greed and fear. That's all that ultimately drives any market that involve humans.
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 18:54
The rumors re borrow at euribor + some hundred basis points is quantitative easing. If that qe is going to come it MUST be for all Euro members. And that is a very crucial point. It is not true that only FED BOJ BOE has been shoring up liquidity ECB did so in the same scale. The expectation in qe is, if it is to happen at all, that the industrially less developed PIGS could buy on credit industrial products from the economically strong. But how could that work if EU demands them to bring down debt to 3% of the respective GDP? I think it cannot. If it is not catch-22 it is the construction of a inflationary spiral. This
at the same time as FED tightens can only be a temporary lift of EUR.
macrosam
United States
Posts: 190
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 18:51
I've heard the euribor + 275 rumors as well but if the market believed that was the agreed upon, the GGB yield curve should have really steepened. The front-end of that curve should be considered money good and anything 1-year and in should have ripped in significantly more than it did, especially if a bailout package is announced where the amount of euros backing Greece exceed the debt due in 2010.

Not saying that this won't happen Sunday/Monday, but it didn't happen today. I suspect there is more to the weekend meeting than negotiating a Greece bailout package. I wonder if some of the contagion has indeed already begun to spread to banks within the EU.
Xaron
Munich, Germany
Posts: 528
15 years ago
Apr 9, 2010 18:39
Those are good news for the Euro. Dont forget that the US and UK arent in any better shape so the focus might point to those countries soon in terms of debts...