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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 5:00
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Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)

Discuss Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)
 
chloethebull
halifax, Canada
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 16:45
@asad...why are the comod stocks not running up higher look @s&p ..dow..tsx all higher but comod stocks not participating..any ideas why..im thinkn on adding more shorts on oil...thanks gl
Callum
Singapore
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 16:42
@sallanne - I had shorted immediately at the time of the tweet. Shortly after, trade was in +ve, so I put a s/l at breakeven and went to sleep during early asia session. I woke up getting stopped at break even. I still think it was a was a good call - I could have put a better trailing stop. Thanks Ashraf for the call.
radu
bucharest, Romania
Posts: 203
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 16:41


Hi Nathan ,

Thanks for the explanations , now i got it .

Btw , do you work by IB (IBKR) ? I heard a lot of good stuff about they

sallanne
Bristol, UK
Posts: 1
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 15:39
why did alaidi post a sell rec on the nikkie late wednesday saying that nikkie to edge towards 10700, from that time to this did nothing but rise. Did not say what this was based on. needless to say my account now down over 200 pound. Thanks Alaidi. Nice One, bet cmcmarkets love u. ;o(
Nathan Hole
New York, United States
Posts: 16
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 14:07
Im not that much of an expert :)

Here s what ive been doing

When gold was 1120 i started selling m10 1350 calls and m10 1000 puts
gold rallied so i cashed in the 1000s , sold 1020s , then 1040s , from there on i started selling august 975s , gold started to retract , rolled the 1350s calls to 1325s, 1300s and so on

right now

im short q10 1000 puts and q10 1250 calls.

the point of this strategy is to try to remain delta neutral. hence not caring which direction it goes
the risk is that if gold drops 30 bucks in one day or goes up 30 dollars in one day i lose money on the short run....

not saying its the best strategy, i have still a lot of learn but it kind of works for me
radu
Romania
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 13:37


Hey Nathan ,
I"m at the begining with "greeks"
I want to know the actual premium
And you said you have others strangles : on gold or something else ? If you have it on gold i""m interested

Tks

Nathan Hole
New York, United States
Posts: 16
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 13:14
Hey,

you are totaly right usually mid term is better.
that small position was just a little gamble on my portfolio. ive got other strangles on m10 and q10 lined up (not too much in directional trading)

As for premiums paid u mean brokerage fees or the actual premiums ?

I actually only play with options , hardly any futures, i like the 4 dimensional world, playing delta neutral and collecting theta and so on.

radu
bucharest, Romania
Posts: 203
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 12:56

Hi Nathan ,

I"m pretty rookie in options and i ask you cause i want to know the primes payed for these options ( i want to compare with my broker prices ) .
Now i understand what do you mean by put spreads .
Do you usually use the options ?
I think is unnecesary to tell you over 85% by options volume expire outside the money...so we must be carefull..i tryed to hedge with minimum costs some positions , but isn"t easy , and for myself , i saw , in general , is better to buy options for an medium to extended period of time .

Regards

Nathan Hole
New York, United States
Posts: 16
14 years ago
Mar 25, 2010 12:34
Hey Radu

sorry ill try to be more specific

bought 1 month ago the Gold j10 1085 put
sold the j10 1055 put (hence the put spread)

April options are expiring today so its definetly not a good trade (should have probably legged in mays)

That's about it :)
chloethebull
halifax, Canada
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Mar 24, 2010 23:01
@asad,are u adding on any strength(oil shorts)..???..atleast we know crude deffin has no biz trading @ 80 buk level an i thinks it only a matter of time b4 we revisit 70 buk level..huge oppertunity here..im playing this over my beloved usdcad..god love here...well im taking small position @1.02 level an will not cover until we hit @least 1.0650..gl tomor